Archive for December, 2008
From across the Pond? Yahoo answers
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Could somebody explain the ideas behind Humanism?
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by Rise Above Member since: 04 August 2006 Total points: 293 (Level 2)
I believe that humanism is a societal concept. When more than two people get together we start looking for ways to define what is right and what is wrong. We come up with a universal understanding of these “rights and wrongs” based on the moralities of others. We look to these others to affirm our own existence and to dignify our existence in whatever society that we live in. People in two different societies may have different moral values and each would be humanized in a different way. I believe that the REAL societal potential of ALL of us humans will come about when the values and morals of all are universal. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? No. Great question b t w, made me think!
Edit: I have to say to Happy Hiram (below)that I do not believe the concept of humanism, in itself, to be bogus. Even if there are some that do not want to be in our society, there are some of us who are always going to WANT those others in our society. It helps to broaden and define our own “humanism”.
Source(s):A man always of two minds
Asker’s Rating: *****
Asker’s Comment:
Thanks for this informative, well-worded, open-minded answer.
2. Tom Member since: 06 February 2008 Total points: 1597 (Level 3)
Ok there is quite a bit to cover, but I’ll do my best.
First of all Humanists believe that people are born good. They believe that people should be studied ‘whole’ and not study individual parts i.e. physical symptoms or behaviour (this idea is called holism).
Humanism believes in free-will, the idea that we can make conscious choices. This also means that we are fully responsible for our actions.
Humanists believe a person needs to recieve unconditional positive regard (unconditional love) in order for them to grow into a fully functioning person (happy person).
Another big thing is client-centred therapy. The idea that therapy should concentrate in allowing the person to elaborate freely on subjects in an unstructured interview way. i.e. letting a person just talk about what they want to talk and not keep asking specific questions. The therapist can also sympathise with the person as well.
Essentially Humanism is about being positive towards people in order to make them happy.
Source(s):Psychology A Level
3.by Happy Hiram Member since: 28 March 2008 Total points:15612 (Level 6)
Humanism. The idea that human beings do what they need to do to survive. That morality is about helping the human race to thrive. That archaic rigid belief system were necessary at one time in man’s growth and development, but are not an atrophied limb that needs amputating.
That is the bogus message of Humanism
How big can the BIG question get?
Posted by: | CommentsTaken from the NSS (National Secular Society) newsline newsletter. Go to their web-site to subscribe regularly. They are masters of informing on and to the media.
The BBC1 Sunday morning debate show The Big Questions is returning for a new series starting on December 28th 2008, describing itself as “THE place where the moral and ethical questions facing the nation are debated and explored”. It is looking for audience members as it travels around the country.
The first few shows will broadcast from the following locations on these dates:
Croydon – December 28th 2008; Oxford – January 4th 2009; Leicester – January 11th 2009; Canterbury – January 18th 2009; Edinburgh – January 25th 2009; Bristol – February 1st 2009; Southampton – February 8th 2009; Birmingham 15th February 2009.
If you live near any of these locations and you’d like to come to the show, please reserve a seat as soon as possible. There are a limited number of seats and the TV company does not wish to disappoint anyone. To secure a place, please call Ruth Mayer on 01865 811139 or send an email including a contact phone number to rmayer@mentorn.tv.
Dogon :Sometimes you learn that ……
Posted by: | Comments……. the importance of whether you reach the end of your journey is not as great as what you learn upon the way.
First visit
http://petitions.dogonism.org/Darwin.html
Then read the story of how it started……Visit the Dogon Site (letters section) to do this.
Then sign the petition. I am sure that it will make you want to buy a ticket ( i.e.sign the petition).
It is not a chain letter or an atheist bus – which also doesn’t mind where it goes as long as it goes past some people who might object to it, but really need to wake up and smell the coffee. However it is a journey and it is worth reading about the travels so far.
Well done Rupert.
The Dogonism Philosophy
A 21st Century ‘religion’: Devoid of Dogma and Divinity.
Dogonism is a new ‘religion‘ based on reason and rationality, for Atheists, Humanist, non-believers and anyone disillusioned with the dogma and authoritarianism of traditional religions.
With the current advanced state of scientific knowledge and backed up by thousands of years of philosophy we are now at a unique point in time where we can create a movement that supersedes any previous religions along with ethics and morality more suited to modern times.
Anyone can join us and we hope to build up a community where all can feel at home and are able to express their lack of beliefs, and hopes for the future, without fear or prejudice.
What do we hope to achieve? Besides a seat in St. Paul’s? More details and a talk facility on the web-site
- Replace religion with a rational alternative
- Understand ourselves and the world
- Overcome the negative heritage of religion
- Promote self-reliance and free-thought
- Create a better world for all
A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe as revealed by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths. Sooner or later, such a religion will emerge.” Carl Sagan
Just in case you were beginning to think that Humanism was a simple concept…
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….Well it is really, but the history of its development is not easy. Here is an example
BH membership must discover a new religious , philosophical or secular web-site every few days. This was one of the more interesting ones especially as it sets out its own principles of Humanism
Philosophical Principles of Humanism
Prof Marian Hillar
The continuous and steady rise of democratic societies in the world since the democratic revolutions of the XVIIIth century makes us recognize political democracy as the moral and practical way to determine the form of the government and self-rule of the people, i.e., the use of an electoral mandate to select political leaders to implement the main policies, the right to dissent, the right to opposition, the rule of law, and the assurance of civil liberties.
This political and democratic revolutionary process goes hand in hand with the moral revolution leading to the development of ethical values and norms for our conduct which are both practical and rational, based on our universal human condition of living in a global society.
The central value for all humans is self-realization and fulfillment. Thus, all persons are not only equal in their dignity and value, but also are equal before the law and are entitled to participate in society so that they are able to achieve a fulfilling life.
All individuals should have a right to self-determination. Furthermore, they should have freedom of choice and freedom to develop their own values and lifestyle, as long as they do not deny the same rights to others. Society should restrict an individual’s liberties only in accordance with social needs in a democratic process. Therefore, tolerance and respect of others becomes another of the basic moral principles. The right to self-determination, however, necessitates personal responsibility and moral growth through education and rational, critical inquiry.
Humanism is the intellectual formulation of the recognition of universal morality in a global society with all its freedoms and obligations. Humanism is the moral philosophy concerned with the reality available to us through reason and scientific inquiry. It is an open-ended process that provides answers to human problems.
The site goes on to extol the work and genius of Michael Servetus as
The representative of the most remarkable union of the two tendencies – speculative mysticism and cold rationalism – was Michael Servetus, the Spanish thinker who is distinguished also for his profound piety. In him was found the fusion of all that was best in the sixteenth century development if one puts aside the evangelical Reformation. Servetus equally distinguished himself as a learned experimenter, as a critical thinker, as a speculative philosopher, and as a Christian reformer in the best sense of the word.”
The site and its publications are endorsed by the American Humanist Association.
Prof Hillar also recently posted a thought provoking piece on the
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Noble Swami Monavtavadi,
I think you just hit a right cord when you quoted that little anecdote about your Muslim friend in context of his free will.
This issue of free will was debated since antiquity and not much more can be added to those old views. The Stoics were the first who discovered its value for human life (Marian Hillar, The Stoic Ethics: Natural development, Rationality, and Responsibility, published in Houston Freethought Alliance Newsletter, issues 101-106, 2008). The same trends can be found in the Hindu ethical theories.
So it is in order to quote a modern Stoic who gives exactly the same version of the free will but in a modern formulation
Professor Lawrence C. Becker in wonderful book which I recommend for reading (A New Stoicims, Princeton University Press, 1998) differentiates between the “negative liberty” and the “positive liberty.” Negative liberty is the absence of impediments to action. Positive liberty is the presence of the means necessary for effective choice and action. It is the stuff we require to act in the space provided by negative liberty. Those means are given to us by social and political institutions, by friends, courage, physical strength, etc. these are liberating factors and for using them some psychological and physical resources are necessary.
After such an introduction professor Becker quotes a little story:
“Now consider the question of whether liberty of either sort is a necessary condition for a good life. Why should it be? Suppose my name is Calvin, and suppose that my creator has predestined every detail of my life, every nuance of my thought and action, including the fact that through theological study I have now discovered that my life is predestined. Does this mean that I have not had a good life to this point, or that I cannot continue to have one? I have no genuine liberty at all to do anything other than what God has planned for me. I am, in effect, a total slave to God. But I certainly think I have a good life. I remember, and feel, and feel joy, anticipation, fear, responsibility, pride, guilt, shame, and obligation. I fear judgment. I do not know how things will turn out for me, but I suspect I am one of the elect, and am glad for that. In any case, I know that whatever happens, it will be exactly as God has planned. In the meantime, I will live the life that I have been given. Given God’s will, nothing else could have happened. I was never at liberty to do other than I did in fact do. I had life without liberty. But I rejoice in it, and affirm it anew every day.
End of story. Now what is wrong with it? It surely does not suggest that we cannot have good lives without liberty. Negative liberty, in general terms, is the space left to us by the political, social, personal, and metaphysical impediments that surround us; positive liberty is the stuff that enables us to act in that space. What Calvin imagines is that the space and stuff available to him are enough for exactly one life – the one God has given him to live, without liberty.”
Marian Hillar M.D., Ph.D.
Professor of Philosophy
and Religious Studies
web site : http://www.socinian.org
A great Season for REASON
Posted by: | CommentsBerkshire Humanists endorse the activities of ‘THE BRIGHTS’ movement and want to encourage its “I subscribe only to individual campaigns that I want to support ” approach . Its full message is at
worldhttp://the-brights.net/greetings.html
The modern Father Christmas is Daniel Dennett who with Richard Dawkins is probably the most famous Bright but they now have over 43,000 members across the globe. They work by complete consensual agreement to ideas floated as projects.
Visit the site above and you will be able to subscribe to their newsletter. These are the headings from their latest version.
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MORALITY PROJECT
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